Don't worry we can have institution such as Citibank or Bank of America that are huge and may be in trouble and a drag on the economy but if they fail we can step in. Boy, that's sure reassuring.
You are right. Just another half-ass measure to avoid what they should be doing: BUST UP THE BIG BANKS.
but it's also about stealing an entire business sector...
for India and China.
and it's intense! You should read some of the most brazen hate messages on many blogs against Americans...it's unreal, it's like reading statements from the 1800's against Black people in the U.S..
but it is all about moving entire sectors offshore, i.e. technology, I.T., advanced R&D and capturing it for India, China.
We have tons of very good engineers in the U.S. who cannot get a job, just laying to waste.
Also check into JPMorgan Chase's mortality swap with corporate reinsurers, along with mortality swaps, mortality bonds, futures and mortality derivatives.
Quite the growing field, death profiteering goes into high gear.
When you expand out the graph. I'm just showing the recession start.
It is positive and it looks like manufacturing once again is growing.
That's all very good news. Fairly unusual to hear good news of any sort from U.S. manufacturing generally. But my overall impression is that the economy might very well depend on the health of U.S. manufacturing, much more so since we have all of these popping bubbles.
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York said Tuesday that it had no choice but to instruct American International Group last November to reimburse the full amount of what it owed to big banks on derivatives contracts, a move that ended months of effort by the insurance giant to negotiate lower payments.
Fed officials offered the explanation in a rare response to a media report after Bloomberg News said that the New York Fed, led at the time by then-President Timothy F. Geithner, directed AIG to make the payments after it received a massive government bailout. The officials said AIG lost its leverage in demanding a better deal once the company had been saved from bankruptcy.
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New York Fed officials explained that the main reason creditors were willing for a time to accept less than full reimbursement was their fear of an AIG bankruptcy. The government's rescue of the company removed that threat and left the company with virtually no way to wrestle concessions from the banks.
"In its negotiations with its counterparties, AIG just didn't have the same bargaining power that it did with the Federal Reserve standing in the background," said Thomas C. Baxter, New York Fed's general counsel. "The only sensible outcome was to give them what they were legally entitled to."
No leverage? Still, if counter parties already hedged against counter party risk or wrote down those positions then they didn't need full payment. According to Bloomberg report the Fed just stepped in and started "negotiating".
The other excuse was that they didn't have time to negotiate with each party so it was easier and quicker to just give them all full payment. Come on?
Bloomberg did win an initial court battle to unseal telephone records and other terms of these agreements but the Fed has appealed that decision.
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Remember we used to worry about fanatics bringing down physical structures or the OPEC mob doing clever speculation in markets ahead of their changes in policy. Then money laundering by narcotraffickers was a big concern in the 1990s. If you have TBTF threatening to bring down the economy if they don't get their way on bailouts, that smacks of extortion and econoterrorism. Of course, the Bush administration and Greenspan were of the "look the other way, the markets will take care of it" school of denial. This White Collar crime on a systemic scale is such a threat to our economy that we need to define it and go after it. If we can find money for Goldman Sachs, we can certainly afford to hire more attorneys and investigators at Justice (and the SEC). How many executives at AIG and Moody's were short the XLF last year? Or were they just asleep?
Frank T.
Remember anyone doing that would be labeled a terrorist and never heard from again.
They are secure in their ivory towers short of anything but a complete collapse of the economy. If that were to happen so many people would have literally nothing something would happen. Hence the warning from Bernanke and Paulson to Bush that if they didn't get a bailout (no questions asked) there would be rioting in the streets. They probably failed to mention that the rioting would take place on Wall Street directed towards Wall Street.
The Bloomberg raises another question: If it was common knowledge that banks already hedged against CDOs or even wrote down the value then why did the Fed pay 100%?
In fact we know that Goldman Sachs did just that:
On March 20, Goldman Sachs CFO David Viniar said in a conference call with investors that Goldman was protected.
“We limited our overall credit exposure to AIG through a combination of collateral and market hedges,” Viniar said. “There would have been no credit losses if AIG had failed.”
Unless, of course, like George Washington on Zero Hedge, Viniar is lying.
Bad as things are, I just don't sense critcal mass out there. The safety net (full of holes as it is) gives people hope. People are still eating and "getting by," and they have a pretty short attention span. Sunday afternoon football and talking heads seem to have replaced religion as the "opiate of the masses." Also, there is the knowledge that the bank doesn't really want your house (thus slow foreclosure), and you can't go to jail for "just owing money." Even the "We want our $$$ back" signs at events have vanished. People adjust to new circumstances and Garrison Keillor tells them it isn't worth worrying about. Bernie Madoff has been sent to jail, and small time ponzi operators are being arrested on the six o'clock news. People have stopped paying attention to the oligarchy and, anyway, they are being publicly (verbally) flogged before being allowed to go ahead and take their bonuses and grow richer still. It will take a larger crisis than we've had, but at least we've learned something about the half-life of public outrage.
Frank T.
The Teachers Retirement System of Louisiana [official website] on Thursday settled a shareholder suit against a group of former executives from American International Group (AIG) [corporate website], including AIG ex-CEO and chairman Maurice "Hank" Greenberg. The lawsuit, filed in 2002 in the Delaware Chancery Court, concerned improper transfers of approximately $1 billion from AIG to C.V. Starr & Co. [corporate website]. The former AIG executives, including Greenberg, were officers of C.V. Starr, an insurance company closely related to AIG, and received compensation from Starr in addition to their AIG salaries. The parties reportedly settled the lawsuit for $115 million, with $29.5 million to be paid by the defendants themselves, and a directors' and officers' insurance policy paying the remainder.
This Greenberg guy is bad stuff. Is there any way we can force him to go operate somewhere else so that we don't have to bailout another one of his companies?
Don't worry we can have institution such as Citibank or Bank of America that are huge and may be in trouble and a drag on the economy but if they fail we can step in. Boy, that's sure reassuring.
You are right. Just another half-ass measure to avoid what they should be doing: BUST UP THE BIG BANKS.
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but it's also about stealing an entire business sector...
for India and China.
and it's intense! You should read some of the most brazen hate messages on many blogs against Americans...it's unreal, it's like reading statements from the 1800's against Black people in the U.S..
but it is all about moving entire sectors offshore, i.e. technology, I.T., advanced R&D and capturing it for India, China.
We have tons of very good engineers in the U.S. who cannot get a job, just laying to waste.
checkout Goldman Sachs new mortality index, QxX.
Also check into JPMorgan Chase's mortality swap with corporate reinsurers, along with mortality swaps, mortality bonds, futures and mortality derivatives.
Quite the growing field, death profiteering goes into high gear.
Huffpost is reporting that the Adler Amendment has been defeated. But I am sure he will try again.
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When you expand out the graph. I'm just showing the recession start.
It is positive and it looks like manufacturing once again is growing.
That's all very good news. Fairly unusual to hear good news of any sort from U.S. manufacturing generally. But my overall impression is that the economy might very well depend on the health of U.S. manufacturing, much more so since we have all of these popping bubbles.
Uh, they are the government and without them, there was no AIG to even make partial payments.
Look at the level. We are still pretty low. But it's positive. Right?
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in the Washington Post:
No leverage? Still, if counter parties already hedged against counter party risk or wrote down those positions then they didn't need full payment. According to Bloomberg report the Fed just stepped in and started "negotiating".
The other excuse was that they didn't have time to negotiate with each party so it was easier and quicker to just give them all full payment. Come on?
Bloomberg did win an initial court battle to unseal telephone records and other terms of these agreements but the Fed has appealed that decision.
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Remember we used to worry about fanatics bringing down physical structures or the OPEC mob doing clever speculation in markets ahead of their changes in policy. Then money laundering by narcotraffickers was a big concern in the 1990s. If you have TBTF threatening to bring down the economy if they don't get their way on bailouts, that smacks of extortion and econoterrorism. Of course, the Bush administration and Greenspan were of the "look the other way, the markets will take care of it" school of denial. This White Collar crime on a systemic scale is such a threat to our economy that we need to define it and go after it. If we can find money for Goldman Sachs, we can certainly afford to hire more attorneys and investigators at Justice (and the SEC). How many executives at AIG and Moody's were short the XLF last year? Or were they just asleep?
Frank T.
even small little quotes on major economic events will help.
I know we have daily readers expecting us to be "on it" on key events.
The doc. prescribed killer cough syrup. "House" would love it.
Remember anyone doing that would be labeled a terrorist and never heard from again.
They are secure in their ivory towers short of anything but a complete collapse of the economy. If that were to happen so many people would have literally nothing something would happen. Hence the warning from Bernanke and Paulson to Bush that if they didn't get a bailout (no questions asked) there would be rioting in the streets. They probably failed to mention that the rioting would take place on Wall Street directed towards Wall Street.
you've got it.
Otherwise you'll have a splitting headache. Keep hydrated, and get well.
Dont' watch or listen to the talking heads that will only lower your immune system.
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All, I am sick with the Swine flu, which is why my writing is light.
I hope ya all can pick up the slack.
But I saw a blurb on some talking head show saying we have not paid off the S&L crisis yet...
so the long term financial consequence...I feel the nation is still in denial over this entire thing.
So far we have the following reactions:
From Yves Smith: unconstitutional
From Zero Hedge: Goldman Sachs LIED
The Bloomberg raises another question: If it was common knowledge that banks already hedged against CDOs or even wrote down the value then why did the Fed pay 100%?
In fact we know that Goldman Sachs did just that:
Unless, of course, like George Washington on Zero Hedge, Viniar is lying.
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Commercial real estate market is searching for a bottom.
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That is most amusing. Most small businesses are not traded on public exchanges too.
I guess even the corporate lobbyists are running low on spin and writing press releases for their bought and paid for Congress Reps.
Greenberg has his huge ownership stake in AIG preserved by bailout and now benefits from raiding AIG to build his company.
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Bad as things are, I just don't sense critcal mass out there. The safety net (full of holes as it is) gives people hope. People are still eating and "getting by," and they have a pretty short attention span. Sunday afternoon football and talking heads seem to have replaced religion as the "opiate of the masses." Also, there is the knowledge that the bank doesn't really want your house (thus slow foreclosure), and you can't go to jail for "just owing money." Even the "We want our $$$ back" signs at events have vanished. People adjust to new circumstances and Garrison Keillor tells them it isn't worth worrying about. Bernie Madoff has been sent to jail, and small time ponzi operators are being arrested on the six o'clock news. People have stopped paying attention to the oligarchy and, anyway, they are being publicly (verbally) flogged before being allowed to go ahead and take their bonuses and grow richer still. It will take a larger crisis than we've had, but at least we've learned something about the half-life of public outrage.
Frank T.
The case was settled:
This Greenberg guy is bad stuff. Is there any way we can force him to go operate somewhere else so that we don't have to bailout another one of his companies?
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