"The safety net has been extended outside the banking system," Volcker said. "That's what I want to change." He said the administration's proposal to create a new system for winding down large nonbank companies would make that easier.
how these senators, with a lot of power, from less populated states are getting huge amounts of corporate $$$$. The report said that there was no way that these senators could raise that type of money from their small states.
I think it is a good idea to start policy discussion.
I think writing up a series of posts on what policies, very specific, very exact, do we need right this moment to create good paying American jobs.
I'm going to try to write up a post this weekend on it, but maybe others want to do that.
This is the bottom line for me is Congress/Administration has ignored a lot of policies that are needed because it's not what corporate lobbyists and other nations want them to do....but to me, it's our country damn it and obviously from today, yes folks, you cannot have a strong economy with these levels of unemployment, as much as you wish it were not so!
This situation creates no sense of urgency in Washington. Ask Summers what he's going to do about it, for instance, and he hems and haws about recovery act programs that have yet to take full effect. To our political elite, jobs are simply nowhere near as critical an issue as the other economic indicators, the stock market, or the financial health of the nation's top bankers.
Yeah, I've got a lot of stuff going on so I've been slow on the uptake. I didn't even write up on durable goods being way down last week and caught the ISM hours after it had been released..
So, these new economic indicators I'm hoping all pick up the slack. I mean to write something insightful vs. copy and paste whatever bloomberg or whoever wrote up, at least for me, I have to read the actual release, plus at least locate some graphs and so on.
But it sure does look like a "W" or "L" to me, as suspected..(or worse).
that entire "V" looked like chart spin to me and I noticed something else, which I didn't want to call out because I don't like doing that...
but some analysts claimed the FDIC would never go broke. Jesus, it's not even at the 24% of the projected bank failures and it's already broke.
Anyway, doing EI translation for our readers, I know we have people reading EP looking for that quick take.
Your post and my post approach the unemployment news from different perspectives. So having two posts make sense in this case.
I think its become obvious that the so-called recovery has stalled. Lots of economic indicators turned down the last two weeks.
Just today, factory orders went negative when the markets expected them to be flat.
Yesterday the ISM came in low, and vehicle sales disappointed.
On Wednesday the PMI came in extremely low. On Tuesday consumer confidence dropped when it was expected to rise.
Last Friday durable goods orders dropped like a rock and new homes sales came in lower than expected. Last Thursday existing homes sales unexpectedly dropped. Last Monday the leading indicators came in lower than expected.
There is a trend developing that shows the so-called recovery is stalling, but you don't see anyone reporting it yet.
Just unbelievable and this might not be popular with some, but I think the labor economic realities of having 10-20 million illegal workers in the U.S. plus about 1.5 M foreign guest workers and I think it's about 2+ M new immigrants every year....well, you get the idea....that increases the labor supply, depresses wages, increases competition for jobs....
Ya know, I'm not a hard and faster or "hard liner" on this one, but hey, it's labor economics 101....just kind of sayin'.
Boy, that just sucks. I know the deal when one just needs a job to make rent, yet you're overqualified, you get rejected, even though you can blow past others. Frankly, dumb down your resume. Then, there are jobs, which are cash under the table, sometimes you can dig out, just to get some cash. craigslist is notorious to have some of these listed, or you can just put up a post in "services" on craigslist, or print out some fliers from your computer, or get some cheap "side business" service business cards printed up in some skill areas you are good at. These are all just trying to get some side cash.
Then, consider moving, or temporarily going to another part of the country. There are still some areas which are hot tourist (hotel) areas I think, these are the more remote places where there is not a large population, so they have a harder time finding people.
I'm just throwing out some survival model type hints because I know perfectly good hard working people are getting royally screwed right now and it's getting to be pretty damn desperate.
Oh yeah, blast off a nasty letter to the white house and your congress reps as well as your state reps and demand to know where those Stimulus jobs are because you need one.
I wish I could offer more help, but maybe some of these tidbits are useful. Maybe some others have a few.
It is an economic policy that does just enough to support financial assets but does nothing for the rest of us especially in terms of employment and increased incomes.
Since the start of the recession in December 2007, an estimated 8.0 million jobs have been lost. This number includes both the 7.2 million jobs lost in the payroll data as currently published plus the announced preliminary benchmark revision of -824,000 jobs to last March’s employment level. And even this number understates the magnitude of the hole in the labor market by failing to take into account the fact that the population is always growing. To keep up with population growth, the economy needs to add approximately 127,000 jobs every month, which translates into 2.7 million jobs over the 21 months since the start of the recession. This means the labor market is currently 10.7 million jobs below what's needed to return to the pre-recession unemployment rate. To demonstrate how large this gap is and the level of growth needed to bridge it, consider the following: in order to fully fill in the gap in the labor market by September 2011, employment would have to increase by an average of 573,000 jobs every month for the next two years straight.
Ok, you're out in the desert, dying of thirst. You find a water spigot. It's dripping a drop of water every 20 minutes.
You put your mouth under it, and try to increase the flow. You manage to get a drop of water every 10 minutes. Oh My God, that is a 100% increase in the rate of change! Double down!
You die of thirst with a smile upon your face, knowing the rate of flow increased.
I guess you wrote up this while I was putting mine together.
No matter, I think we can handle two posts on this one!
Well, so much for all of those talking about this great "V" shaped recovery.
This is horrific. U6 is 17%! Now we have your analysis on how they are just reducing the total count by 1.5 million!
I have something that drives me nuts. The 2002 "jobless recovery". To me, that was no recovery. It was the housing bubble emerging to mask the collapse of the dot con bubble.
Seriously, how can they call finding another bubble a recovery, ignoring the unemployment rates...i.e. the U.S. worker, middle class is just getting hammered and still they do not have very specific policies for jobs for U.S. workers, U.S. workers preferred. It messes up their global labor arbitrage agenda, so ....we cannot get what we really need, which is kind of a WPA type program but for U.S. workers, preferred at minimum.
I know I've been out of work since December 2008, and I have been seeking employment every single day! I am out there submitting my resume, going on interviews and still nothing. I have been a manager in the hotel industry for 15 years, and I cannot find employment. I've even applied to positions that are not of a management nature, and I'm overqualified for them. I don't have a problem taking a lesser paying job, because I'm getting that in unemployment anyway, but I can't even get that. If they don't extend benefits, we will be out on the street! Sad to say, we are not alone, there will be alot of homeless people and are economy would be alot worse off than it is now.
I am no economist but it would seem to me that rate of change is everything. These levels that some refer to are of some interest, of course, but they do not tell the whole story. Most of us want to know what will happen over the next six month to a year. What is going to change. We want to know how life will change for us by next year. online casino
Angels Dancing On The Head Of Pins
(an earlier post) had the most insightful comments.
Not particularly complimentary to the perceived "American" way...but then most Americas have been living life with their head stuck up their ass for the past 50 years.
Congress (under guidance from their uberwealthy patrons) constructs this Byzantine matrix of tax loopholes and regulatory favoritism and legions of media pundits exhort the masses to support it. OK, so there are small tidbits thrown out to the masses from time to time to keep them involved, that hardly constitutes good government.
Too many Americans are too dependent on Government funding i.e ..Gov "Valium", to care what happens. They vote for the incumbent just so long as he ensures those Gov checks keep coming. Meanwhile those not part of this nooky handout & those who are younger... well they are screwed. Yep, let's admit it.. after Wall St, The Military Industrial Complex, Lawyers/AMA/Insurance/Drug Companies, retirees get their cut... well heck, there's not much left. Young folks, welcome to the new normal. You're on par with 2nd & 3rd world contemporaries because that is the US's future and you are the future.
What's to support or admire about the US these days?
Better a complete meltdown and a system reset to cleanse the system (and yes, I am prepared to take my chances with that).
Shoot, I don't have to do a thing either . The Prez, Congress, Big Biz are SO corrupt and/or clueless they already have us pointing towards the cliff and accelerating.
Hope ya'll have a "plan B" to cope with the outcome.
While I'm not the first to point this out, it should be repeated as often as possible: the difference between the Last Great Depression, and the Neverending Great Depression we are entering, is that the last time around, after the collapse of the banking system, there was pushback by the people, via Roosevelt and his administration, against the banksters (then called the "Money Trust").
This time around, when the banking system collapsed in 2007, the banksters took over (as in the US gov't, Treasury, etc.) --- quite an important distinction!
to address the significant problems uncovered by this financial crisis. In a comment in another story I laid it a rough outline of what should be done.
In my opinion, the problem is that policy makers, at least the most important one - the President, still uses this faulty analytical framework and doesn't recognize the extent of the problem.
I'm so glad you picked up on this because that phrase just makes me want to cringe! It's simply unacceptable and wiping out the U.S. middle class is just not "normal" period.
I think many of us who either studied history or were alive from the 1950's (I ain't sayin' if I were or weren't!) know this is not the America from that time, not even the America from the 1970's in terms of income, social mobility, opportunity, the great U.S. middle class..
so hearing a bunch of parrot talking heads declare this is now how it "should be", when it simply does not have to be this way with some legislation and policy changes...
just makes my skin crawl with irritation and outrage.
Volcker is just a shill for the banks.
"The safety net has been extended outside the banking system," Volcker said. "That's what I want to change." He said the administration's proposal to create a new system for winding down large nonbank companies would make that easier.
I'll try to put together a policy change type post.
how these senators, with a lot of power, from less populated states are getting huge amounts of corporate $$$$. The report said that there was no way that these senators could raise that type of money from their small states.
I think it is a good idea to start policy discussion.
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
I think writing up a series of posts on what policies, very specific, very exact, do we need right this moment to create good paying American jobs.
I'm going to try to write up a post this weekend on it, but maybe others want to do that.
This is the bottom line for me is Congress/Administration has ignored a lot of policies that are needed because it's not what corporate lobbyists and other nations want them to do....but to me, it's our country damn it and obviously from today, yes folks, you cannot have a strong economy with these levels of unemployment, as much as you wish it were not so!
Monumental post, ran across this at crytogon.com and here's the address at the Youtube site.
From Dan Froomkin:
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
Yeah, I've got a lot of stuff going on so I've been slow on the uptake. I didn't even write up on durable goods being way down last week and caught the ISM hours after it had been released..
So, these new economic indicators I'm hoping all pick up the slack. I mean to write something insightful vs. copy and paste whatever bloomberg or whoever wrote up, at least for me, I have to read the actual release, plus at least locate some graphs and so on.
But it sure does look like a "W" or "L" to me, as suspected..(or worse).
that entire "V" looked like chart spin to me and I noticed something else, which I didn't want to call out because I don't like doing that...
but some analysts claimed the FDIC would never go broke. Jesus, it's not even at the 24% of the projected bank failures and it's already broke.
Anyway, doing EI translation for our readers, I know we have people reading EP looking for that quick take.
Your post and my post approach the unemployment news from different perspectives. So having two posts make sense in this case.
I think its become obvious that the so-called recovery has stalled. Lots of economic indicators turned down the last two weeks.
Just today, factory orders went negative when the markets expected them to be flat.
Yesterday the ISM came in low, and vehicle sales disappointed.
On Wednesday the PMI came in extremely low. On Tuesday consumer confidence dropped when it was expected to rise.
Last Friday durable goods orders dropped like a rock and new homes sales came in lower than expected. Last Thursday existing homes sales unexpectedly dropped. Last Monday the leading indicators came in lower than expected.
There is a trend developing that shows the so-called recovery is stalling, but you don't see anyone reporting it yet.
Just unbelievable and this might not be popular with some, but I think the labor economic realities of having 10-20 million illegal workers in the U.S. plus about 1.5 M foreign guest workers and I think it's about 2+ M new immigrants every year....well, you get the idea....that increases the labor supply, depresses wages, increases competition for jobs....
Ya know, I'm not a hard and faster or "hard liner" on this one, but hey, it's labor economics 101....just kind of sayin'.
Boy, that just sucks. I know the deal when one just needs a job to make rent, yet you're overqualified, you get rejected, even though you can blow past others. Frankly, dumb down your resume. Then, there are jobs, which are cash under the table, sometimes you can dig out, just to get some cash. craigslist is notorious to have some of these listed, or you can just put up a post in "services" on craigslist, or print out some fliers from your computer, or get some cheap "side business" service business cards printed up in some skill areas you are good at. These are all just trying to get some side cash.
Then, consider moving, or temporarily going to another part of the country. There are still some areas which are hot tourist (hotel) areas I think, these are the more remote places where there is not a large population, so they have a harder time finding people.
I'm just throwing out some survival model type hints because I know perfectly good hard working people are getting royally screwed right now and it's getting to be pretty damn desperate.
Oh yeah, blast off a nasty letter to the white house and your congress reps as well as your state reps and demand to know where those Stimulus jobs are because you need one.
I wish I could offer more help, but maybe some of these tidbits are useful. Maybe some others have a few.
It is an economic policy that does just enough to support financial assets but does nothing for the rest of us especially in terms of employment and increased incomes.
Courtesy of 9.8%: Change you can believe in!
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
Yesterday, some traditional business media outlets were talking about recovery with the quarterly improvement in consumption. Then today.
From EPI:
"It's the level, stupid.."
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
Ok, you're out in the desert, dying of thirst. You find a water spigot. It's dripping a drop of water every 20 minutes.
You put your mouth under it, and try to increase the flow. You manage to get a drop of water every 10 minutes. Oh My God, that is a 100% increase in the rate of change! Double down!
You die of thirst with a smile upon your face, knowing the rate of flow increased.
I guess you wrote up this while I was putting mine together.
No matter, I think we can handle two posts on this one!
Well, so much for all of those talking about this great "V" shaped recovery.
This is horrific. U6 is 17%! Now we have your analysis on how they are just reducing the total count by 1.5 million!
I have something that drives me nuts. The 2002 "jobless recovery". To me, that was no recovery. It was the housing bubble emerging to mask the collapse of the dot con bubble.
Seriously, how can they call finding another bubble a recovery, ignoring the unemployment rates...i.e. the U.S. worker, middle class is just getting hammered and still they do not have very specific policies for jobs for U.S. workers, U.S. workers preferred. It messes up their global labor arbitrage agenda, so ....we cannot get what we really need, which is kind of a WPA type program but for U.S. workers, preferred at minimum.
I know I've been out of work since December 2008, and I have been seeking employment every single day! I am out there submitting my resume, going on interviews and still nothing. I have been a manager in the hotel industry for 15 years, and I cannot find employment. I've even applied to positions that are not of a management nature, and I'm overqualified for them. I don't have a problem taking a lesser paying job, because I'm getting that in unemployment anyway, but I can't even get that. If they don't extend benefits, we will be out on the street! Sad to say, we are not alone, there will be alot of homeless people and are economy would be alot worse off than it is now.
I am no economist but it would seem to me that rate of change is everything. These levels that some refer to are of some interest, of course, but they do not tell the whole story. Most of us want to know what will happen over the next six month to a year. What is going to change. We want to know how life will change for us by next year. online casino
Angels Dancing On The Head Of Pins
(an earlier post) had the most insightful comments.
Not particularly complimentary to the perceived "American" way...but then most Americas have been living life with their head stuck up their ass for the past 50 years.
Congress (under guidance from their uberwealthy patrons) constructs this Byzantine matrix of tax loopholes and regulatory favoritism and legions of media pundits exhort the masses to support it. OK, so there are small tidbits thrown out to the masses from time to time to keep them involved, that hardly constitutes good government.
Too many Americans are too dependent on Government funding i.e ..Gov "Valium", to care what happens. They vote for the incumbent just so long as he ensures those Gov checks keep coming. Meanwhile those not part of this nooky handout & those who are younger... well they are screwed. Yep, let's admit it.. after Wall St, The Military Industrial Complex, Lawyers/AMA/Insurance/Drug Companies, retirees get their cut... well heck, there's not much left. Young folks, welcome to the new normal. You're on par with 2nd & 3rd world contemporaries because that is the US's future and you are the future.
What's to support or admire about the US these days?
Better a complete meltdown and a system reset to cleanse the system (and yes, I am prepared to take my chances with that).
Shoot, I don't have to do a thing either . The Prez, Congress, Big Biz are SO corrupt and/or clueless they already have us pointing towards the cliff and accelerating.
Hope ya'll have a "plan B" to cope with the outcome.
While I'm not the first to point this out, it should be repeated as often as possible: the difference between the Last Great Depression, and the Neverending Great Depression we are entering, is that the last time around, after the collapse of the banking system, there was pushback by the people, via Roosevelt and his administration, against the banksters (then called the "Money Trust").
This time around, when the banking system collapsed in 2007, the banksters took over (as in the US gov't, Treasury, etc.) --- quite an important distinction!
to address the significant problems uncovered by this financial crisis. In a comment in another story I laid it a rough outline of what should be done.
In my opinion, the problem is that policy makers, at least the most important one - the President, still uses this faulty analytical framework and doesn't recognize the extent of the problem.
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
I'm so glad you picked up on this because that phrase just makes me want to cringe! It's simply unacceptable and wiping out the U.S. middle class is just not "normal" period.
I think many of us who either studied history or were alive from the 1950's (I ain't sayin' if I were or weren't!) know this is not the America from that time, not even the America from the 1970's in terms of income, social mobility, opportunity, the great U.S. middle class..
so hearing a bunch of parrot talking heads declare this is now how it "should be", when it simply does not have to be this way with some legislation and policy changes...
just makes my skin crawl with irritation and outrage.
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